Friday, 15 February 2013

HP Friday: Siriuser and Siriuser


Greetings, internetlings. It's time to talk about Chapters 12-22 in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Thanks to Alice at Reading Rambo for hosting and for bringing the funny.

Finally, finally, we can start talking about Sirius.


I think what made me cling to Sirius so dearly was the moment in the tunnel when we think Harry will be going to live with him instead of the Dursleys. I wanted that to happen as ferociously as Harry did. Damn, universe. You cruel.

But, is it just me, or did the scene in the Shrieking Shack drag a bit? I think it's because I knew what the Deal was, and so all that "But, why?" "But, wait." "But, who?" got me a mite impatient. And Sirius had the opposite problem of most villains (probably because he's not, in this instance, a villain), in that he didn't monologue enough. Use your words, Sirius! It didn't drag in my first read through; this time, I was just anxious to get to Understood Sirius.


I'm writing this Thursday night (Happy Valentine's Day, kids!), and I can hear some of you typing out how laaaame it is that Harry, not Hermione, realized what Dumbledore meant for them to do when they used the Time-Turner. And you know what, I have no answer for you. Sure, Hermione was a bit rocked from encountering the gaggle of Dementors, but she was still Hermione. It's not like she'd come to and forget how to use furniture.


One thing we've been wondering is how big the student population of Hogwarts is. On pages 224-225 of my edition, in chapter 15, Rowling says that 3/4 of the crowd at the Quidditch final were cheering for Gryffindor, while 200 people were rooting for Slytherin. So there are 800 people in attendance. How many of those do we think are staff? Maybe 50? Either the whole "200" thing is a big ol' whoopsy-daisy from JKR, or there are way more than 10 new students per house each year, which would make more sense to me. It could be that there are multiple rooms for boys in Harry's year, and he's just assigned to bunk with the four we know. Did we ever land on a solid estimate in anyone's comment section?


I loved reading PoA, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it won't be my favourite this time 'round. I'm so excited for the next book. Our first four-parter! And the Quidditch world cup! And will we perhaps see the result of Trelawney's second prediction?


Now. Talk to me about Sirius + Crookshanks fanfics. I know they're out there.


24 comments:

  1. I was also confused by the whole 200 Slytherins comment! I'm glad we're focusing on the important stuff.

    I also spent a lot of the Shrieking Shack scene going "OMG JUST TELL THEM WHAT YOU KNOW SIRIUS! Things will go SO MUCH QUICKER." But I still love this scene cos it's when you learn Sirius is actually innocent (you know, when he gets around to saying it).

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    1. SO IMPORTANT. If only we could find answers to the plumbing. That will haunt me 'til I die.

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  2. Awwww Crookshanks. I still have time beliving it's JUST a cat!

    I'm thinking there's definitely more than 10 students per house per grade. Just cause Rowling doesn't spell it all out in the books doesn't mean that there aren't a lot more kids around.

    I think I actually enjoyed the "but then why this?" ness of the Shrieking Shack part, only because they so rarely do that in these books. You know if they hadn't been asking all those questions, we would be debating them now! Lol.

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    1. Too right! Crookshanks is something else. A splendid companion for our Hermione.

      Yeah, agreed that there are more than 10 students etc. I would still like a Harry Potter encyclopaedia though. Do you think Pottermore answers all these questions?

      You are SO RIGHT that we'd just be asking those questions if the book hadn't been asking them! Ha, that's funny. There is just no pleasing us this time around.

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    2. OHMYGOD I wish Rowling would write a HP Encyclopedia that explained all this stuff. But she probably never will, because she's thinking "They're kids books for christssake, stop pestering me for details and leave me aloooooone!"

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  3. Oh, I love the scene in the Shrieking Shack. I love how it's like KABOOM truth bomb! KABOOM 'nother truth bomb! KABOOM KABOOM KABOOM. Shit gets very very real down there.

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    1. It is a great scene. And I loved it in the past. I must've been in a mood.

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  4. JKR says one thing but gives us evidence of another when it comes to numbers of students per house. Even with the Harry Filter firmly in place, I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't know the names of all of his fellow Gryffindor first years. There are only eight of them. Maybe some houses are larger than others for each individual year, but one has to think that they houses would be at least fairly comparable in size when taking all 7 years as a whole.

    OMG. Crookshanks and Padfoot fanfic? I'd pay someone to write that. Or at least I would if it were legal for somebody to make money of of writing fanfic!

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    1. I need to go back into the old comments and look for that other evidence, suggesting that there were very few students per house. When did Harry have a chance to list off the names of his fellow Gryffindors and fail?

      Crookshanks and Padfoot fic HAS to exist. Otherwise, I don't understand the internet.

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    2. But it is legal to make money from writing fanfic! See: 50 shades of grey.

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  5. I can't even deal with JK's maths. I mean, I just don't even want to think about it because I don't think there's an answer and I don't think she even has an answer and ARGH it's annoying!

    I do know what you mean about the scene in the Shrieking Shack! I still enjoyed it because I didn't wholly remember what had happened (There is A LOT I don't remember, I'm realising. Especially when people are like 'but what about with Sirius later, and I'm just like *blank face*. So this is EXCITING!) and I totally forgot that Snape showed up, but still I was a bit like 'this is LONG and actually yeah I DO know this'. But I still kind of loved it?

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    1. Yeah, maybe we'd all be happier if we just stopped paying such close attention to this stuff.

      There's so much I don't remember too! And so much that has been replaced with what happens in the movies (for eg, Snape saves the kids from werewolf-Lupin, pretty much). Reading the books again is glorious.

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  6. Pshaw, there are not that many students at Hogwarts! Alley at What Red Read talked about it this week. JK is totally inconsistent with this, but that many students makes no sense. I don't see why it's a problem that Harry figures out what Dumbledore intends rather than Hermione. It's pretty irrelevant, I think, but also Harry was the one who turned back to go to Hagrid when they "heard" Buckbeak get executed. I think it was most on his mine so if anything, this choice does make sense.

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    1. Huh! I totally thought I was getting to the point where I could read you guys. There were so many "JKR's an anti-feminist" comments in response to Hermione scenes ("books and cleverness" etc) that I thought for SURE it would come up again here. You keep surprising me, readalongers.

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  7. This is the third post I've said it in this week, but JK is sooooo bad with numbers. She clearly has one idea regarding house numbers, but she expresses it completely differently for 90% of the book. You can't just say there are 200 Slytherins when everything suggests there are only 70 JK! Get it together!

    I love the shrieking Shack scene, but I also didn't think the first half of this dragged - so I may be in the minority with this one. I just get so excited for the 10,000 secrets to be finally revealed and then epic dementors and stags and dads-who-are-actually-13-year-old-you's and YAY POA!

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    1. I was so excited for the secrets to be revealed that I was impatient with the build up to them!

      I DON'T KNOW, MAN. I might just be biting the bullet here, but I really think that there's no reason the school *can't* be that big. Especially if its the only school for witches and wizards in the UK and Ireland. We only see the small bit of the world around Harry, and there's lots of Hogwarts we don't see, so I think it'd be perfectly reasonable for there to be a bunch of students we haven't heard of.

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  8. A typical night in the Syrius Black/Harry Potter home:

    Harry: "What's for dinner?"
    Sirius, looking up from his wizard video game: "Uhhhhhh."
    Harry: "So chocolate frogs and butterbeer again, then?"

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    1. GRAUURRRGHHAHAHAHAHHAHAA. You're right, Sirius would make a terrible parent. They would have to acquire a house elf for sure.

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    2. Ahahaha, wizard video game. I'd play that.

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  9. I weep with laughter at your title. Also, sometimes in this giffy world of ours I feel like I am stretching a bit to use a particular gif because I'm SUPER KEEN ON IT, but there is not a gif in this post that doesn't look tailor-made for its expression-of-feels. Spot on, you.

    Also, I see from your Shelfari that you are reading Game of Thrones. Do you watch the series as well? Have you read it before? We must discuss.

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    1. Oh, you are so nice to me.

      Game of Throooones! (I just can't call the series Song of Ice and Fire. I want to, but I cannot.) I've read the first book and seen the first season. Neil and I were watching it while reading it, trying to keep ahead of the show in our reading, but something Important and Upsetting happened on the show before we had read it, so now we're slowly making our way through the second book, determined to finish it before we watch the second season. But it's not really book 1 = season 1, so maybe we should just read all the things first. IT IS SO GOOD. I keep getting library books like a jerk when I should really be focusing on reading Clash of Kings.

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  10. Your entry title - WIN.

    The ending - JKR is hella cruel.

    I'm impressed by your handle on Hogwarts math. Muggle math is confusing as is!

    Can't wait for Goblet of Fire! Just when you think,"hey, I've read 3 books and I'm pretty sure I know everything about Hogwarts now". NOPE. Even more magical whatsits galore!

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  11. Wtf I thought I commented on this. Ok, in my defense, I was hungover Friday and in a really awful mood and despite LOVING YOU, this is all pro-Sirius. Which today I don't care about, but Friday seemed like the WORST thing people could do.

    There are totally ten students per House per year. JKR is wrong. For once.

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  12. I am choosing to believe that a good portion of those 800 people at the quidditch match were families of the kids on the team/Hogwarts board members/people from Hogsmeade. Because even though the wizarding world is awesome and magical, they don't seem to have much going on, entertainment-wise. Plus, I'm assuming parents are invited to the matches? Like how the parents are invited to the tasks during Goblet of Fire?

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